VED-MANDIR Answers

Answers by swamiji sri ramswarup

Query: swamiji sadar pranam is there any vedamantra in 3 vedas , excluding atharveda , for moksha , the liberation of the soul ?

Ans. My blessings to you. The aim of all four Vedas is to attain salvation. While learning and following three education of the Vedas i.e., Gyan kand (study of all universal matters, science from Rigved), Karam Kand (form of pious deeds from Yajurved) and Upasana kand (knowledge of eternal worship of God like Yajyen/havan from Ved mantras, name jaap of God and hard practice of Ashtang Yoga philosophy).

Atharvaveda also give the knowledge of medical science, herbs, medicines and also about God/salvation. So, if a person/aspirant desires to attain salvation, he as per preach of the God in Vedas will have to listen and obey/follow preach of all four Vedas. Therefore, Vedas tell to get progress in both paths simultaneously i.e., worldly pious deeds i.e., discharging of moral duties and spiritualism.

K D Gupta: Pranam. Veda says of Vishnu the God having three footsteps for the brahmand, but no illustration is there. Srimadbhagwat has the details. Gita is referred in Bhagwat as in bhakti ears. So it is neither seed nor fruit. I mean Vedas and bhagwat, which is first? But certainly Gita can be classified as trunk which is always is truth. Why some of persons do not rely on Gita?
Swami Ramswarup: My blessings to you. In Rigveda mantra 1/22/18, it is stated �VISHNNUHU TRINNI PADANI VICHAKRAME� i.e., (VISHNNU) God who is omnipresent (TRINNI) three (PADANI) matters or behaviour i.e., three types of matters or behaviour - first, which are known, second -- to be known and third -- which are achievable. (VICHAKRAME) holds.

Idea is that God creates the universe and in the universe, He creates several matters for the benefit of human-beings. Human-beings must know the matters and get the same for beneficial use. I mean to say that there may not be such three footsteps of Almighty God. There are unlimited names of God based on His divine unlimited qualities as is also stated in Rigveda mantra 1/164/46.

In the above Rigveda mantra, His name is quoted �Vishnu�. The meaning of pious word �VISHNU� is Vishlari Vyaptau Vishnu i.e., omnipresent. You know, omnipresent means, there is not even a minutest place in the universe where God does not reside. That is why, He is omnipresent.

Secondly, the God is formless. Then from where the three footsteps came when God is omnipresent. He being formless, God doesnot have any foot etc. We will have to follow the path of eternal knowledge of Vedas which emanates direct from God and not the self-created path of human-beings.

K D Gupta: Swamiji pranam. I do not find Valmiki Ramayan more than a dharmik story narration, still it says KRATE CHA PRATIKARTAVYAM ES DHARMA SANATANAH. This is self explanation of a dharma so why different Hindu swamis or saraswatis or else high knowledge saints breaking Hindudharma in pieces like parivar or ashramas or samajs?
Swami Ramswarup: My blessings to you. Valmiki Ramayan preaches about moral duties, worship of God and other several matters of the world. As regards dharma, Vyas Muni in Shanti Parv of Mahabharat has given a beautiful and authentic definition that �MAHAJANA YEN GATHA SAH PANTHAHA� the Mahabharat epic was written by Vyas Muniji about five thousand three hundred years ago. So the meaning of the above shloka will have to be considered based on the circumstances of that time only and not based on the present scenario. At that time, present sects did not exist. Only Vedas� knowledge was in vogue. So meaning of the above shloka will be- that the path of moral duties, worship and knowledge adopted by the then Rishis-Munis, who were learned by Vedas, is the Dharma, which we have to follow forever.

Another definition related to the above shloka is told by Manusmriti shloka 2/6 That �VEDAHA AKHILA DHARMAM MOOLAM� i.e., all the form of pious deeds have originated from Vedas. So if we are not the learned of Vedas and do our deeds against the Vedas that will not be called Dharma but will be �ADAHARMA�. So, what is Dharma and what is adharma is to be known by studying Vedas. For example- �PRATIKARTAVYAM� is dharma. But the definition of PRATIKARTAVYAM WILL BE KNOWN FROM VEDAS ONLY. 

Otherwise, if mere definition is kept in the mind based merely on bookish knowledge, it will not be applicable, in the life forever i.e., such person will never serve the people without selfishness. It reveals that nowadays there are so many self-created definitions of Dharmas by saints, swamiji�s who are against the Vedas and hence, the problem. We will have to study Vedas again as was in action right from the beginning of the earth till Mahabharat war. So, to stop the disintegration of Hinduism and to unite them again, everybody must spread the knowledge of Vedas, Vedas� being the knowledge which emanates direct from God at the beginning of the earth. Vedas are not sects and Vedas have not been written by any Rishi-Muni or saints etc. It is eternal knowledge which is everlasting.

K D Gupta: People are keen to know truth in life but Gita says it is not truth [satya ] but satva which matters. What is the reference and fact after death may be a human or for any creature?
Swami Ramswarup: Yes, human life is meant to realise the truth, that is why, Almighty God has blessed us with the knowledge of four Vedas, to follow. The truth means to realise the matter which is immortal i.e., everlasting. Three matters are immortal-(i) Almighty God (ii) Souls (iii) Prakriti. The aspirant who study Vedas and follow the preach mentioned therein, that is, performs daily havan with Ved mantras, name jaap and practice of Ashtang Yoga Philosophy under the guidance of an experienced acharya, then he achieves the goal. Geeta is a Vedic preach. So Geeta can never go against the Vedas. I would advise you to study Geeta in Hindi. The description of 1-6 chapters in brief of the Bhagwad Geeta Granth has also been written by me , I have tried to explain the Vedic theory used in Bhagwad Geeta by Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj ji . The book contains 739 pages worth Rs.400/- excluding postal charges. You can study the above Geeta to know the Vedic/eternal truth. The book can be sent to you on receipt of your postal address if you so desire, please. Please also read the article 'After Death'. 

K D Gupta: After much studying, I have come to following conclusion: Vedas are seed, Geeta is tree and Ramcharitramanas is fruit. Please guide me. 
Swami Ramswarup: Sorry to say that I have a doubt that you have studied Vedas, otherwise you could never give the conclusion as stated in your question. Secondly, the thought/idea from, you have obtained, the person has also never studied Vedas, if you would even see the first page of Tulsikrit Ramayan then you would see the Sanskrit shloka that Tulsi had stated that he studied Vedas first then wrote Ramayan.

Similarly Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj , first studied Vedas with his friend Sudama in the ashram of Rishi Sandeepan then he preached Bhagwad Geeta . So Bhagwad Geeta is also a Vedic preach. I have written description on Bhagwad Geeta of 1 -6 chapters stating the facts of Vedas. The book contains 739 pages. The book may be studied by you as well if you desire.

Vedas contain three main subjects � knowledge of all universal matters, i.e., deep science, form of deeds, and eternal worship of God . Knowledge of Vedas emanates direct form God whereas. The other holy books have been written either by Rishi-munis or saints etc. So there is a vast difference between Vedas and the holy books. As stated by Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj in Shloka 3/15, that philosophy of all the deeds originates from Vedas and the Vedas emanates direct from God. Similarly, Manu smriti shloka 2/6 clarifies that the Vedas are the roots of all deeds. So, how the said facts of Bhagwad Geeta and Manusmriti can be oversighted? Yog shastra Sutra 1/7 states Vedas are self proof. So, any view which is against the Vedas, is considered unauthentic by the ancient as well as present learned acharyas.

The saints etc., who do not know the Vedas may say anything, being ignorant. But the fact is stated above. we must know that if Vedas are seed then Geeta cannot be considered tree or buddhi. Similarly, Ramcharitmanas can never be accepted as fruit (Bhakti) stating that Vedas are seed. The said views are totally against the Vedas , please. 

Question arises why? You see, Vedas emanate direct from God. God is formless , omnipresent , omniscient i.e., ever away from facing any kind of deed or suffer death etc., because He is immortal. Now see, Vedas emanate direct from Almighty God who is immortal so naturally Vedas are immortal. Vedas are therefore eternal like God and have not been written by anyone whereas Geeta is a collection of eighteen chapters of Bheeshma Parv of Mahabharat written byVyasmuniji before about 5,300 years ago. Similarly, Ramayan has been written by TulsiDasji before about 325 years ago. Whereas Vedas are eternal , knowledge of Vedas was before the creation, remains at present and will also remain forever in future but the said holy books, yes which contain the knowledge even, have been written on a fixed date and will never be seen in next creation. However, Vedas will remain forever like God.

So we will have to think deeply that Vedas are everlasting whereas the said holy books will remain only till the final destruction of universe. You see no name of any Rishi-muni or any holy book of previous creation has come in anyone�s notice in this creation. So when we compare the immortal Vedas then we will have to keep any idea in our mind that from the immortal matter, no destructive matter is created. If we consider Vedas, a seed then Ramayan and Bhagwad Geeta which are our adorable holy books cannot be assumed tree or fruit etc., being destructible.

Our ancient and present Rishi-munis including great dignitaries like Sri Ram, Sri Krishna Maharaj, Vyas muniji, Guru Vasishth, Atri Rishi, King Harishchandra etc., studied and followed the Vedas and attained salvation. They did not take birth agaib. So the assumption that Vedas are seeds, Bhagwad Geeta is tree and Buddhi, Ramchritmanas is fruit etc., doesnot suit and therefore is not true, please. We must always study Ramayan and Bhagwad Geeta to gain the Vedas� knowledge from them. But the assumption like tree, fruits etc., is not true. First we will have to learn Vedas and then only will we be able to know the facts about Bhagwad Geeta and Tulsi Ramayan as their writers did i.e., Vyas muniji who wrote Bhagwad Geeta as stated above, was philosopher of Vedas and Ashtang Yoga Philosophy.

Similarly, Tulsi studied Vedas first and then wrote Ramayan. Then we will have to think over it that a person who is describing Bhagwad Geeta or Tulsi Ramayan and has never studied Vedas traditionally, how would he be able to explain the truth and secret of the Vedas. Whether, a philosophy of the doctor can be understood by a person who has got the degree of M.A. in English or any other subject. certainly not? Because, his subject has never been the subject of medical science. So is the case of Bhagwad Geeta and Tulsi Ramayan.

So, Vedas are eternal. Therefore, from Vedas eternal matter can only be generated and not mortal. Trees and fruits are mortal, that is, they will be destroyed one day when the final destruction of the universe takes place. 

Therefore, it is not logical to state that Vedas are seed, Bhagwatgeeta is the tree and Ramchatramanas is the fruit. Instead, Vedas are seed, tree and fruit itself. 

K D Gupta: Lingpuran says that Bhagwat Vishnu donated his eye to Bhagwan Shiva. Is it true?
Swami Ramswarup: I have described a lot, above about Vedas and almighty God please. Now your views stated in this query, do not tally with Vedas and therefore are unauthentic please. Because, there is only one formless, omnipresent God who creates, nurses and destroys the universe and He only is to be worshipped . He is formless, so He has no eye, mouth, ear etc. So how can He donate His eye. However, he has given eyes to every human as well as living being but He doesnot have any senses, perceptions and mind, that is why He is Almighty . Almighty means He has all powers and needs no assistance from anyone. For example �if God sees, then he sees without eyes. He does not require eyes. 

K D Gupt: Swamiji pranam. Swami Shivananda introduces a word sacrifice in explaining ATMANEVEDINAM in chapter 3 of Gita. No word can be placed as Sanskrit translation in English. A simple man may misunderstand it. In Sanskrit no space is for sacrifice.
Swami Ramswarup: My dear, you know I am very much busy at present since seventy-one days long Vedanushthan of four Vedas has begun here. So I would like you to quote the shloka number of chapter three of Bhagwad Geeta where the word �ATMANEVEDINAM� has been mentioned, to enable me to give you the correct answer.

K D Gupta: Ramcharitmanas is not authentic because [ yehi ma raghupati nam udara] but because it contains the name of HANUMANJI who says [ram kaj kinhe bina mohi kahan vishram] which also emphasizes that the shloka 17/18 meaning would have been different in Geeta if it was asked by Arjun much before starting the yudh shankhbheri. The name of HANUMANJI is very authentic in itself. with your permission I want to quote a simple case when my son was very astonished when he was helped by Hanumanji by shaking his shoulders and giving visa to u.s. while authorities said no and he has taken a huge amount from MIT USA for attending conferences in France and Singapore. 
Swami Ramswarup: Vedas tell only to worship eternal, formless, God who creates, nurses and destroys the universe. Sri Ramji also got the knowledge of Vedas from his guru Vasishthji and did several pious Yajyen and did practice of Ashtang Yoga as is also stated in Valmiki Ramayan. Great warrior and brahamchari, Hanumanji was the Prime minister of Sugreev and when Sugreev became friend of Hanumanji then Hanumanji did service of Sri Ram which has become an example of ideal service in the world. Valmiki Ramayan states that Hanumanji was also a learned of four Vedas and the said fact was also told by Sri Ram ji in jungle to Laxman. We have to follow the path of Sri Ram and Hanumanji to realise the God and get long, happy life.

K D Gupta: Pranam as per Swami Madhusdana Saraswati Gita includes karma budhi and gyan respectivly in six and six and rest six bchapters but if 9 chapters tell budhi and rest 9 bhakti then where the karma stands as sloka per 17/18. 
Swami Ramswarup: In four Vedas, God has given three educations:
(1) Gyan kand i.e., knowledge i.e., science regarding all matters of universe like sun, moon, water, human-bodies etc., especially in Rigveda.
(2) Karma Kand i.e., knowledge regarding form of deeds- pious and sins especially in Yajurveda.
(3) Upasana Kand i.e., real worship of God like Yajyen, name jaap, practice of Ashtang yoga philosophy especially in Samveda. Atharvaveda states about all the matters mentioned in above three Vedas including medical science.

Bhagwad Geeta is a Vedic preach delivered by Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj to Arjun. So based on Vedas' knowledge, Sri Krishna maharaj preached Arjun about Karmakand in first to six chapters, Upasana kand in next six chapters and Gyan kand in last six chapters. Bhagwad Geeta shloka 17/18 gives knowledge that if an aspirant does tapasya to get respect, honour, praise and services to his own body etc., or tapasya is done to deceive others then the said tapasya relates to Rajogunn i.e., the quality of Rajogunn produces sensuality, anger, greed, ego etc. So the said meaning is based on Vedas yet if it does not suit you then you may go ahead with your own views please.

K D Gupta: One writer says while explaining 'shabdbrahmativartate' that these days a common sadhak has become far from Vedas etc. and has wanting a narrow easy path to approach the Vedas knowledge. How if he attains from Ramchritmanas?
Swami Ramswarup: If possible, please study first six chapters of Bhagwad Geeta written totally based on Vedas in the shape of a book named-"Shrimad Bhagwad Geeta, -Ek Vedic Rahasya. The correct meaning according to Vedas of Stanza: "SHABDABRAHMAATIVARTATE" is mentioned therein. However, Shabda -Brahma means Ved Mantras. Ativartate-means- to supersede. That is, the real aspirant does not need Ved mantras. Actually, it does not mean that aspirant need not to study the Vedas. Shabdabrahma means Ved mantras. In Shantiparv of Mahabharat, Bheeshma Pitamaha states to Yudhishthir that first of all knowledge of shade Brahma i.e., Vedas is attained and thereafter Parbrahma. Parbrahma means realisation of God. Samveda mantras states that the pious deed of listening of Vedas and to do the havan never goes in vain. It is carried in the next birth i.e., if an aspirant has studied Vedas in previous life then in present life, he will know the Vedas automatically without study. Similarly, Geeta shloka 6/44 states that the "POORVABHYASEN" due to the effect of the hard practice of Vedas and yoga Philosophy, the aspirant supersedes literal meaning of study of Vedas. Why does he supersede? Because he learnt the entire knowledge of Vedas in his previous life otherwise there is no of question to supersede.

One thing more, no easy path has been made by God. However, self-made worships have created the same. So he who wants to worship the God by means of self-created bhakti of saints etc., they can go ahead otherwise fundamental laws of nature are unchangeable. Suppose, for the last about twenty-five hundred years the public is worshipping God without Vedas but before the said period, only knowledge of Vedas existed and was followed by the people because there was no other alternative path. So all our Rishi-munis, raj rishis and public did hard tapasya, to study Vedas, doing Yajyen and practice of Ashtang Yoga. Then they realised the Almighty God . Now, suppose, we follow the easy, narrow path which is not mentioned in Vedas. It means God did favour with the public of Kalyug and as regards public of Satyug, Treta, Dwapur, God did not favour them instead asked them to do hard tapasya which is wrong because there is no favourism in Al mighty God and His fundamental laws are always unchangeable. 

K D Gupta: Actually Vedas and other Hindu granthas are unaffordable and inaccessible to a common Hindu. Therefore Ramchritmanas is very suitable from professional babas and dadis money earning programmes. Therefore ATMANEVEDINAM seems to be a good way of worshipping. 
Swami Ramswarup: Nothing is impossible after taking the birth as human-being. However, there must be firm desire and hard working accordingly. Especially, in the spiritualism, while following the path of Vedas, Almighty God Himself helps. I quote here a true story of Swami Dayanand Saraswati. When he reached to his spiritual acharya: Swami Birjanandji. At that time Swami Dayanandji was living hand to mouth but he had firm desire to gain the knowledge of Vedas. With the blessings of God he met with a rich person who gave him money to purchase the spiritual books like Ashtadhyayee and arranged food and living accommodation etc. So, it is not good to say that a poor cannot study Vedas. Mostly the people are not interested themselves to listen to Vedas. Why? Because nowadays mostly the saints are telling that Vedas are difficult and Yajyen is only meant to attain swarg and not salvation etc. This all is false. So innocent people have started telling the said falsehood. Sri Ram, Mata Sita, Dashrath, Sri Krishna Maharaj i.e., every dignitary listened to Vedas first and did Yajyen and practice of Ashtang yoga philosophy also. And it is a preach of pure shastras even that we must follow the traditional path of Vedas. However, it is one's own decision as to what person wants. But Vedas are not difficult, please. There are several ashram of Arya Samaj throughout the country where anyone can go and listen to Vedas free of cost. 

K D Gupta: Is Bhagwatgita not suitable for humans above 45? What about Ramayan, Vedas, etc. 
Swami Ramswarup: My blessings to you. Bhagwad Geeta, Valmiki Ramayan are authentic religious books based on the knowledge of Vedas. Whereas Vedas are eternal knowledge which emanates direct from God, so all the authentic religious books are applicable for the souls, for whole of life. The books are applicable for soul and not for young or old age human body, please. Salvation is to be attained by soul and not by body. However, soul takes assistance from bodies to do worship of God and to discharge all moral duties towards, family, nation etc. 

K D Gupta: I feel God, see God why not others do? 
Swami Ramswarup: You cannot see yourself please, then how God sees God. Soul looks through eyes. Even if eyes are not given to soul in human body, then soul is not able to see. Formless God, who creates, nurses and destroys the universe is one, who has no body or nervous system etc. So, no question of God seeing the God. Actually, God at every moment sees everybody. But everyone is not able to see God. You see, if everyone is God then the great qualities of God -of being omnipresent shall have no relevance. So God is one who resides in souls as well as in every part of universe. 

K D Gupta: It was just beyond expectation that you were taking the really wanted generation with you. Actually this is the right age of human to be with our Vedas. In the vishwaroop darsan Arjun saw only kaurwas, but not Abhimanyu and their other sons. 
Swami Ramswarup: The worship of God in Vedas starts from childhood, please after performing upnayan sanskar and vedarambh sanskar. In vishwaroop darshan, Arjuna saw whatever Yogeshwar Shri Krishna Maharaj wanted to make him know. 

K D Gupta: It is said that after Ravana Yudh, all supporters of Shri Ram were made alive by Indra. Was Mahabharat war necessary? What happened to Pandavs and Ashwathama after the war? 
Swami Ramswarup: It is not mentioned in most authentic Valmikee Ramayana that Indra brought back to life of the soldiers of Shri Ram. Once, when a person is dead, he can not be made alive as per the fundamental law of nature. Mahabharata war was necessary to establish true religion i.e., truth, justice and righteousness in the society and especially the eternal path of Vedas' philosophy. As regards Pandavas, they did not meet with death in war. Ashwathama also escaped himself in the war. 

K D Gupta: Lord Krishna says about tyag but not about sanyas is it the vishad which Arjuna asks first. Is really sanyas not required for humans and ladies especially? Please explain. Please also explain about Vedas which became three and then four. 
Swami Ramswarup: In Bhagwad Geeta the matter of sanyas has also been briefed by Shri Krishna. I have written six chapters of Bhagwad Geeta and the book is available within 15 days to be dispatched to needy person. We have to pay our attention first on four Vedas then to the other holy books. Vedas knowledge's emanates direct from God and therefore Vedas are self proof. After studying Vedas, Rishis, Munis gained knowledge and based on the knowledge of Vedas they wrote, shastras, Mahabharata (Bhagwad Geeta) and other holy granths. Study of other holy granths including Geeta reveals that up-till now only Vedas contains hundred percent true and all knowledge-science etc., deeds, worship matters required in the universe, Whereas in other holy books only small portion of the knowledge of Vedas has been mentioned, which do not fulfill the requirement of the world. In Vedas God has stated four ashrams---- brahmcharya, griasth, vanprasth asnd sanyas. And the said four ashrams are equally important being the teaching of Almighty God. Sanyas is for soul' salvation and not for body. So, all souls of human beings (men or women) are entitled for sanyas. Vedas were never three. Vedas were four, are four, and will ever remain four. 

K D Gupta: Goswamiji writes roop gyan nahi nam biheena. What is the necessity of knowing name where God is? Why lord Krishna says kleshoadhiktartesham? I don't find so nirakar brahma is for all and for vishwabandhutwa? 
Swami Ramswarup: It is simple thought that if your brother- sister or lover is away from you and somebody pronounces his name before you then automatically the face of your brother- sister with name will come in your mind/in front of you. Secondly, suppose a man "A" from Delhi goes to Bombay and his friend states to him to meet one of his friends there and gives his address as well but does not tell his name. Then it will be a problem for man "A" even after reaching at the given address to meet the person. Everybody will ask him as to whom he wants to meet and give the name of the person. So is the case of God please, when we study Vedas and know the real name of God, perform Yajyen, do daily name jaap of God, and practice Ashtang Yoga philosophy. He, in the form of light, is realized in our heart.